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BlitzburghRockCity
03-24-2008, 07:19 PM
Well it started off slow like it always does for us fans in Steeler Country but in the last couple weeks the team has addressed the return game and coverage units with signing Mewelde Moore and Keyaron Fox , they addressed the OL with Hartwig, they addressed depth at OLB with resigning Frazier, and they freed up some space under the cap and got rid of a distraction on the team by releasing Wilson. Of course we got Ben signed for good long time which was the main goal for the team from the get go.

All in all so far so good for the team IMO. There's still work to be done but we've set up ourselves ok to date as we get closer to the draft. I wouldn't mind seeing the Max Starks situation get cleared up before the draft but other than that things are looking pretty decent.

SteelerSteve
03-24-2008, 07:24 PM
My number one goal was to see Ben get a long term deal so I cant really complain. As long as we beef up both lines I will be pretty happy.

AZ_Steeler
03-24-2008, 07:27 PM
It's hard not to be happy when your team locks up its franchise QB for eight years! :D So far, I'm pleased with all the moves the Steelers have made though... they seem to be resolving the areas of concern. Yeah, they are major huge upgrades but they are at least trying. :bigthumb:

K Train
03-24-2008, 07:32 PM
we'll see just how happy we all are after the draft

yinzer
03-24-2008, 07:34 PM
My number one goal was to see Ben get a long term deal so I cant really complain. As long as we beef up both lines I will be pretty happy.

:plus1:

DIESELMAN
03-24-2008, 08:43 PM
we'll see just how happy we all are after the draft
We better be jumping up and ****ing down with excitement :cope::cope::cope::cope::cope:

TEEMONT
03-24-2008, 11:03 PM
I said I was happy, but only b/c I'm not unhappy. I'm reserving my happiness/unhappiness for after the draft.

Captcoolhand
03-24-2008, 11:31 PM
I said I was happy, but only b/c I'm not unhappy. I'm reserving my happiness/unhappiness for after the draft. i bet ICS wishes you would.:lol:

Stlrs4Life
03-24-2008, 11:36 PM
I'm happy so far. But will be even happier with a good draft.

RckyMtnStlrFan
03-25-2008, 02:06 AM
Yeah, I guess I'm happy. A huge concern was Ben's contract. I'm also glad we got rid of Wilson. I think we still have needs at the o/d line, wr and rb positions and hopefully we can address that in the draft.

portcityblackandgold
03-25-2008, 07:43 AM
I am pleased so far but we still need to pick up some earth movers for the
O-line

ItAintEasyBeingPeazy
03-25-2008, 01:09 PM
It's been a better Off-Season as of late, minus all the player misconduct crap, could use about 100% less of that.

Brady Quinn
03-25-2008, 02:30 PM
I am seriously stoked about our offseason. I think we addressed every need we had. I am not crazy about the QB situation. I would like to use DA to get back into the draft.

JoeThomas
03-25-2008, 02:44 PM
I am seriously stoked about our offseason. I think we addressed every need we had. I am not crazy about the QB situation. I would like to use DA to get back into the draft.

I agree, was great offseason. If only we could get Bubby Brister in to be our QB coach!!!

ARKIESTEEL
03-25-2008, 04:04 PM
about like we always do:banging:

susielr
03-26-2008, 10:18 AM
I agree...every year it seems to be the same type of thing. No real big names just guys that might help where needed.

HUNT4SEVEN
03-26-2008, 11:44 AM
I'm happy so far. But will be even happier with a good draft.
yea same here

Iron City South
03-26-2008, 01:14 PM
. . . No

BlitzburghRockCity
03-26-2008, 07:42 PM
. . . No

God I can't believe I'm opening up this can of worms :lol:

but what don't you like about the offseason so far ?

Iron City South
03-26-2008, 08:28 PM
God I can't believe I'm opening up this can of worms :lol:

but what don't you like about the offseason so far ?

What is there to like? They bring in a bunch of "C" grade Free Agents, sign a few "stiffs" and practice squad tackling dummies nobody else wants, then put a media spin on it as if we're now this "improved" team.

Keep in mind, all the while this PR media hype is on the stiff signings, they try to "back door" us on the fact that they're raising ticket prices over 20% as if we would be so enamoured with the fact that we're now this "new and improved" team and signing free agents, that we woudn't notice or care. :cursin:

Sorry, I see right through their bullshat! :willybs:

Captcoolhand
03-26-2008, 08:35 PM
God I can't believe I'm opening up this can of worms :lol:

but what don't you like about the offseason so far ?
You just had to ask.......http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9707/3668kl4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Steelerlyn
03-26-2008, 08:41 PM
What is there to like? They bring in a bunch of "C" grade Free Agents, sign a few "stiffs" and practice squad tackling dummies nobody else wants, then put a media spin on it as if we're now this "improved" team.

Keep in mind, all the while this PR media hype is on the stiff signings, they try to "back door" us on the fact that they're raising ticket prices over 20% as if we would be so enamoured with the fact that we're now this "new and improved" team and signing free agents, that we woudn't notice or care. :cursin:

Sorry, I see right through their bullshat! :willybs:

Looking on the bright side, maybe they will get a bunch of nobodies who play well together!~ Kinda like the Pathetic Pats

BlitzburghRockCity
03-26-2008, 08:47 PM
What is there to like? They bring in a bunch of "C" grade Free Agents, sign a few "stiffs" and practice squad tackling dummies nobody else wants, then put a media spin on it as if we're now this "improved" team.

Keep in mind, all the while this PR media hype is on the stiff signings, they try to "back door" us on the fact that they're raising ticket prices over 20% as if we would be so enamoured with the fact that we're now this "new and improved" team and signing free agents, that we woudn't notice or care. :cursin:

Sorry, I see right through their bullshat! :willybs:


When do we ever sign anything more than B or C type FA's to this team, you should be used to that by now. Hartwig is a "B" IMO if we're using that type of grading system with the potential to be an A. Ben is an "A" of course, Moore is a C maybe a B depending on how much he is able to help in the return game which would definitely raise his grade. Warren is a solid signing, and Keyaron Fox is a ST ace and backup OLB. This is what we are, it's what we do every year. We live too close to the cap to burst out and sign a huge name player. The Rooney's will always be a team that focuses on resigning their own because they believe in the guys they draft over the years.

As far as the ticket prices, yeah that does suck I'll give you that. I hate the way tickets are in general anymore.

Nobody is saying we are some super improved team yet but realistically we didn't have that far to go in the first place compared to other teams. Our main issues are depth and you don't sign "A" players for depth because they cost too much, you try and sign B players and hope they work out for you. We still have the draft before we go making any firm judgments on just how improved of a team we really are.

Iron City South
03-26-2008, 09:05 PM
If they wanted to improve this team then Arians and Ligashesky should have both been fired the day after the last game of the season.

SteelCityPride08
03-30-2008, 07:37 PM
If they wanted to improve this team then Arians and Ligashesky should have both been fired the day after the last game of the season.

you're right. last year when we were rollin down the field the entire game with the quick pass game and on 3rd and 6 he calls a f***** qb sneak with Ben. thats terrible

Iron City South
03-30-2008, 08:15 PM
Arians cost us no less than 3 games last year and Ligashesky's not-so-Special Teams cost us no less than 2 games. Ski should definitely have been fired .... no questions asked .... and Arians ..... Well, I'll just say this, considering he was a 1st year guy and Ben Roth seems to be in his corner right now, I'm willing to give him one more year to prove he has a strategic mind. However, let it be said that I won't have much patience with him if I see him starting to call totally ball-less calls in the Red Zone and using formations that don't play to our strengths.

$teelersRule
04-01-2008, 05:51 PM
If they wanted to improve this team then Arians and Ligashesky should have both been fired the day after the last game of the season.

yeah but dont forget it was still just their first year together. i would give them a least one more year to prove themselves

BlitzburghRockCity
04-02-2008, 09:40 AM
I have confidence that Arians will have a good year this year and learn from the first year mistakes. The team needs to rally around them too and execute what's called so they are just as accountable.

ST, well we'll just have to wait and see, they've sucked for so long now ( minus the SBXL year ) that if they suck again nobody is going to be surprised. The additions of Fox & Moore should hopefully help this unit. I'd do anything to have Chidi back playing ST for us.

$teelersRule
04-02-2008, 11:29 AM
yeah hopefully, and chidi was great. do you have any idea where he ended up? :scratch:

Iron City South
04-02-2008, 02:06 PM
I have confidence that Arians will have a good year this year and learn from the first year mistakes. The team needs to rally around them too and execute what's called so they are just as accountable.




Really? And what specifically gives you this confidence in Arians? This man left a suck stain in ever place he called home as a coach.

TEEMONT
04-02-2008, 02:24 PM
Really? And what specifically gives you this confidence in Arians? This man left a suck stain in ever place he called home as a coach.

Bens 32 TD's gives me a little confidence. 24.6 points per game, with a TERRIBLE O-line gives me confidence. 3rd in the league in rushing gives me confidence (with a TERRIBLE O-line). Sean Mahan being a back- up gives me confidence. A great draft will give me a little more confidence.

If you look at this they same way you look at Obama bowl, you should be saying there is room for improvement.

BlitzburghRockCity
04-02-2008, 02:28 PM
Bens 32 TD's gives me a little confidence. 24.6 points per game, with a TERRIBLE O-line gives me confidence. 3rd in the league in rushing gives me confidence (with a TERRIBLE O-line). Sean Mahan being a back- up gives me confidence. A great draft will give me a little more confidence.

If you look at this they same way you look at Obama bowl, you should be saying there is room for improvement.

Yep, pretty much what he said :yesnod: The fact that a team who was firing on one offensive line cylinder at best during the year was able to so well offensively gives me a lot of confidence. There's always room for improvement but compare our offense from 2 years to last season and it's like night and day.

Iron City South
04-02-2008, 02:36 PM
Bens 32 TD's gives me a little confidence. 24.6 points per game, with a TERRIBLE O-line gives me confidence. 3rd in the league in rushing gives me confidence (with a TERRIBLE O-line). Sean Mahan being a back- up gives me confidence. A great draft will give me a little more confidence.

If you look at this they same way you look at Obama bowl, you should be saying there is room for improvement.

I asked specifically about what gives him confidence in ARIANS ... not Ben Roeth. We all know what BR is capapable of doing.

With Arians, I'm talking about strategy, play selection, and overall offensive management. The man was a hack before he came to us ...

TEEMONT
04-02-2008, 02:41 PM
I asked specifically about what gives him confidence in ARIANS ... not Ben Roeth. We all know what BR is capapable of doing.

With Arians, I'm talking about strategy, play selection, and overall offensive management. The man was a hack before he came to us ...

Seeing as Arians was the man responsible for calling the plays that Ben ran, I'd say thats what gives me confidence.

Sure he made a bone-headed call on 3rd and 6, but if Ben would have gotten 6 yards, we would all be calling Arians a genius. The reason Kordell was such a terrible QB was because it seemed like he had a new OC every year. Ben is comfortable with Arians, lets not ruin the chemistry just yet.

Iron City South
04-02-2008, 02:44 PM
The play was a monstrosity .... inexcusable at any level. The only thing that made it even worse was the fact that he came out and second guessed his own judgement to the media; said he knew it probably wasn't a good call to make.

BlitzburghRockCity
04-02-2008, 02:58 PM
the good thing is that he recognized his mistakes and owned up to them. He didn't just try and avoid the questions. There's always going to be some growing pains and trust me I was bitching right along with everyone else on some of those calls last year but nobody can deny the improved performance of not only Ben but the offense as a whole in moving the ball, keeps drives alive with key conversions and just generally being more effective in scoring. That's as much Ben as it is Arians calling plays. Just think if the protection hadn't broken down as much as it did, how many more drives for TD's we could have had. It's a far cry from the performance on offense we're used to seeing.

TEEMONT
04-02-2008, 02:59 PM
The play was a monstrosity .... inexcusable at any level. The only thing that made it even worse was the fact that he came out and second guessed his own judgement to the media; said he knew it probably wasn't a good call to make.

Yeah........we know.

Had it worked though, you would be riding his nuts.

Iron City South
04-03-2008, 11:12 AM
Yeah........we know.

Had it worked though, you would be riding his nuts.


Not at all and I'll tell you why; because I didn't like the Arians hiring from the start. To be a successful OC in this league you need to be cutting edge and always out strategizing/out-thinking your opponent. Predictability and complacency will, and should, end your career early if you don't produce.

Arians came to us after being booed out of Cleveland of all places; the flipping aimpit of NFL franchises. If you can't produce in Cleveland (where the bar is set so low that cockroaches have a hard time limbo-ing under the stick) ... you don't deserve to be coaching at the professional level. :nono:

Word is .... they actually helped him pack when they heard he was leaving. :yesnod:

TEEMONT
04-03-2008, 11:23 AM
Not at all and I'll tell you why; because I didn't like the Arians hiring from the start. To be a successful OC in this league you need to be cutting edge and always out strategizing/out-thinking your opponent. Predictability and complacency will, and should, end your career early if you don't produce.

Arians came to us after being booed out of Cleveland of all places; the flipping aimpit of NFL franchises. If you can't produce in Cleveland (where the bar is set so low that cockroaches have a hard time limbo-ing under the stick) ... you don't deserve to be coaching at the professional level. :nono:

Word is .... they actually helped him pack when they heard he was leaving. :yesnod:

You mean the guy whose Offense dropped 33 on us in the playoffs on '03? We are talking about the same guy right? The guy who Ben threw a franchise record 32 TD's for this year? the Browns did make the playoffs with Arians as an OC, haven't seen them there lately. Arians has always been a decent coach for us, even during his first stint as Cowhers TE coach. Give him more than a year. Unless you want another head case QB on our hands.

Iron City South
04-03-2008, 01:03 PM
You mean the guy whose Offense dropped 33 on us in the playoffs on '03? We are talking about the same guy right? The guy who Ben threw a franchise record 32 TD's for this year? the Browns did make the playoffs with Arians as an OC, haven't seen them there lately. Arians has always been a decent coach for us, even during his first stint as Cowhers TE coach. Give him more than a year. Unless you want another head case QB on our hands.


No question he'll get another year to prove himself, but he has a hole to climb out of from last years gaffs. I wouldn't be too quick to give him credit for our inability to hang onto the ball or cover the pass in '03, nor would I credit him for BR's ability last year ... again, when it comes down to brass tacks, the OC is the braintrust of the strategy based on his assessment of his own team, and the opponent. He's not the tactical executor.

BlitzburghRockCity
04-04-2008, 09:02 PM
Tomlin deserves as much credit as Arians does for Ben's improvement...as does of course Ben himself. Tomlin's awareness to take the shackles off Ben and really let him explore the capabilities he's got to be a top flight QB did worlds of good for his confidence. Plus with Arians allowing Ben to have a say in the playbook & terminology also helps build a rapport and trust between everyone.

GoBenGo
04-04-2008, 09:25 PM
..this is the closest we have been to next season so far...!!..

MOTORKRAFT
04-05-2008, 12:29 AM
I have read this whole thread as I usually do. I've been doing this longer than my join date says. I have noticed something strange here. On the coaching complaints, it seems to be Ligashesky, or Arians. Everyone says the O'line is the problem. I haven't heard Larry Zierlein's name. You know, the O'line coach. It's because all of you are on his e-mail list, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. Come on now, hook me up. Motorkraft needs his porn too.:cabbagepatch:

steelcityrockers
04-05-2008, 12:50 AM
That almost made me laugh.

Blitzburghpete
04-05-2008, 04:56 AM
I would have been totally happy had they splashed the cash on a great o line men especally a guard, but NOT Faneca. I'm not sure Hartwigg is in the same league as Faneca. We need a T too

Also a great DE would have been nice too. I just hope the draft can fill those spots.

snowman79
04-05-2008, 06:19 AM
Happy so far but will reserve full judgement till after the draft.
But whoever we get and whoever pulls on that Steelers jersey will have me behind them 200%

Believe people, we are the STEELERS !!!!

"SUPPORT OUR TROOPS"

CaliforniaSean
04-07-2008, 03:06 AM
glad to see ben taken care of, but mewelde moore? we just got rid of duce why pick-up another one? oh well hope the draft goes well. looking forward to another year.

BlitzburghRockCity
04-07-2008, 04:18 PM
glad to see ben taken care of, but mewelde moore? we just got rid of duce why pick-up another one? oh well hope the draft goes well. looking forward to another year.

Moore is a versatile player who can really boost our return game as well be a serviceable backup in the running game by catching out of the backfield. He's a different type of back than Staley was. It's a good pick for us IMO and very cap friendly as well.

steelcitysfinestXL
04-07-2008, 04:44 PM
true that TG Moore was my favorite pickup because he's gonna be the answer to multiple questions this team had.. Quality running back depth, solid return man and an extra weapon on third downs. My question is.... Do we really need davenport any more??? With moore, Davis and Russell all probely making this team is dav expendable??? I'm a BIG najeah supporter but in all honesty he's not a power back, he's not as good as a receiver as Moore and IMO Russell has the ability to be a servicable back up as a 3rd RB behind Moore!!! Any opinions?

steelcityrockers
04-07-2008, 05:33 PM
I don't like Nahjeh and I thought he was expendable last year.

JensK
04-08-2008, 09:29 AM
As long as we get someone who can avg. more than like 15y per return, im happy... If Moore can, well then it'll be Moore, if not we'll have to find someone else who can.. As long as Holmes don't, that is.. I really don't like the whole idea of letting him return anything! Ben works to good with him, to get him injured on a simple return!

steelcityrockers
04-10-2008, 10:08 PM
Wow. MORE than 15 YARDS per punt return? That is A LOT. I was thinking 8.5-10.00 would be just fine. You do realize that the top echelon punt returners normally avearge about 12.00-14.00 yards correct?