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BlitzburghRockCity
03-16-2008, 01:34 AM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_557469.html


What's good for Farrior obviously wasn't good for Faneca or Porter, who wanted to finish their careers with the Steelers but left for big dollars.

Farrior's contract was restructured to be more team-friendly, with a lower salary cap number in his final year.

Compare Farrior's situation with Porter, who was scheduled to have the second-highest cap number on the team when he was released. Or with Harrison, who turns 30 in May and has an extremely team-friendly contract: $1.5 million in 2008 and $1.7 million in 2009.

"I didn't get a contract, but at the same time I don't feel like they had enough money to spend on me," Porter told the Tribune-Review after his release. "It was about the Steelers coming to a reasonable number that they felt like giving me, and was I willing to take it."

Farrior's situation is different. Nearing the end of his career, he's willing to play for less money to remain with the Steelers.

The Steelers' working environment is unique in the NFL. Not only is the team successful on the field, but in an era when players are often released to create salary cap space, some players have an opportunity to finish their careers in Pittsburgh.

"The Steelers put in the number of years on a contract that they reasonably expect a guy can play. Rarely do you see them eat three years of a contract because a guy got too old," said Pittsburgh-based agent Ralph Cindrich, who represents Farrior.

"In the case of a guy like Farrior, instead of pumping up the last year (of his contract) like a lot of agents do to get a high average, we actually dropped James' (salary) last year some. So they're saying, 'We had good play out of him;' in fact, the Steelers are calling last season maybe his second-best year with them. They look at his cap number and see it went down from the previous season."

Simply put, Farrior wanted to stay with the Steelers. So he made his contract more attractive to the team. Farrior led the Steelers in tackles last season, but how many other talented players are willing to accept less money to stay?

"That was one of the reasons why James made the decision when he was in the last year of his contract," Cindrich said. "It's very difficult to find in the NFL a home where you're getting paid well, you wake up in the morning and you want to go to work and want to be with your teammates. In the long run, the dollars amount to more when you're with that type of organization versus playing five years and taking a hit in free agency trying to get the big bucks, but not playing through the contract."

It's interesting how the Steelers work the cap when it comes certain players vs others. Like the article mentions, players like Bettis, Aaron Smith get extensions even at 30+ but guys like Porter or Faneca don't. You can tell when a player really wants to be in Pittsburgh and he's nearing the end of his career and has maybe 3 or 4 years left in him; he'll take less money or take a more cap friendly deal to stay with the team.

Farrior is in the last year of his deal; with Foote and Timmons battling it out you have to wonder if they'll bring James back in 2009 or just let Foote and Timmons take over the starting jobs in the middle. Farrior is playing at a high level still and is a leader on this team; he's always been a team player and was one of the best FA signing in the Cowher era no question!

AZ_Steeler
03-16-2008, 02:46 AM
Farrior seems like the type that would take less to play and stay in the Burgh :dunno: We'll just have to wait and see though...

Captcoolhand
03-16-2008, 08:19 AM
IMO, Farrior got everything he could ask for in his days of playing. He has a SB ring, he's made the money and he's nearing the age that he probably thinks, why should I go somewhere else and play for another year or 2 and have to learn a whole new system?
He's just in it for the love of the game and if he can just play it out for just a few more million so be it.
To bad we don't have more players that see it the way Farrior does....:yesnod:

portcityblackandgold
03-16-2008, 09:00 AM
Farrior is a throwback for sure. In a time where most players dont even know how to spell loyalty its refreshing to see a player who wants to just play the game and contribute to his team.

Stairwayto7
03-16-2008, 09:15 AM
The funny thing about alot of the Linebackers that do leave, late in thier years. Earl Holmes,kirkland, Porter, Gildon, etc. What did they do when they left? Maybe the Steelers just know who`s still got it, and who is done! Maybe its just our system that keeps them here anyway! In the past players like Holmes and Kirkland went to teams with a 4-3. Holmes went to the brownies, they couldn`t wait to get him. Once he was responsible for the entire middle instead of just his side of the middle, he didn`t have the speed, one year and done.

yinzer
03-16-2008, 09:34 AM
farrior brings great leadership to the table. he still has a couple good years in him and he WANTS to retire a steeler. i know the young LB's look up to him and learn from him. IMO, that's a good thing because these young LB's aren't coming to a team with their heads all blown up with ego. they know there are veteran LB's to respect. when timmons/woodley have to take the reigns, they'll be well prepared. :2cents:

DIESELMAN
03-16-2008, 09:56 AM
Farrior is a throwback for sure. In a time where most players dont even know how to spell loyalty its refreshing to see a player who wants to just play the game and contribute to his team.
:plus1: For the love of the game.

K Train
03-16-2008, 10:00 AM
i think hes more important to the team than hes given credit for. signing him wont be a problem, we'll get a hometown discount because frankly i think he needs the steelers as much as they need him

stillers4me
03-16-2008, 10:05 AM
I have always liked Farrior. Good player, good leader, good man. He's a Steeler to the core.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-16-2008, 11:27 AM
i think hes more important to the team than hes given credit for. signing him wont be a problem, we'll get a hometown discount because frankly i think he needs the steelers as much as they need him

An interesting scenario also is that Foote is signed through 2009 on his current deal. Maybe the Steelers give him an extension next season if they think he can handle Farriors duties in the middle, of if they think Timmons can do the job. Conversely maybe they think Foote won't be able to do the job that Farrior did so then they let Foote's deal expire, let him walk and bring back James on a 2 yr deal while they groom his replacement via the draft?

Just some things to keep in mind that could play out depending on how these older players start to get to the end of their deals.

Black@Gold Forever32
03-16-2008, 12:40 PM
The funny thing about alot of the Linebackers that do leave, late in thier years. Earl Holmes,kirkland, Porter, Gildon, etc. What did they do when they left? Maybe the Steelers just know who`s still got it, and who is done! Maybe its just our system that keeps them here anyway! In the past players like Holmes and Kirkland went to teams with a 4-3. Holmes went to the brownies, they couldn`t wait to get him. Once he was responsible for the entire middle instead of just his side of the middle, he didn`t have the speed, one year and done.


Don't forget Chad Brown and he left when he was still a young player...He was still a good LB with the Seawhawks but he wasn't the badass like he was in our system....Its a shame Brown would have been a monster in our defense for years.....

steelcityrockers
03-16-2008, 10:12 PM
In a word, no. He is a good player who provides veteran leadership, but is aging and tey have some young players ready to step up.

K Train
03-16-2008, 10:27 PM
i heard he took a paycut today

DIESELMAN
03-17-2008, 03:03 AM
Don't forget Chad Brown and he left when he was still a young player...He was still a good LB with the Seawhawks but he wasn't the badass like he was in our system....Its a shame Brown would have been a monster in our defense for years.....
Kevin Greene, he was good before us and after us. He played 4 more years after the Steelers and had 52 sacks. :yellowthumb:

steelcitysfinestXL
03-17-2008, 10:32 AM
Don't forget Chad Brown and he left when he was still a young player...He was still a good LB with the Seawhawks but he wasn't the badass like he was in our system....Its a shame Brown would have been a monster in our defense for years.....

KENDRELL BELL, prime example... dude was a MONSTER out of Georgia... his rookie season made him an instant all-star. Does anybody remember that interview w/ Ray Lewis, the reporter asked him, "So what do you thik of Steelers Rookie LB Bell!?!" Ray-lew in typical fashion stated, i dont even know who he is!?!?! He went on to be the DROTY, and we all know what happened after that!!!

Farrior is my favorite steeler, and has been since his 2nd season here!!!We BETTER not "Joey Porter" his @ss!!! i dont see why the 2 sides cant reach a deal to keep him here til he retires... he's our best linebacker, BY FAR!!!!

yenz
03-18-2008, 12:07 AM
The funny thing about alot of the Linebackers that do leave, late in thier years. Earl Holmes,kirkland, Porter, Gildon, etc. What did they do when they left? Maybe the Steelers just know who`s still got it, and who is done! Maybe its just our system that keeps them here anyway! In the past players like Holmes and Kirkland went to teams with a 4-3. Holmes went to the brownies, they couldn`t wait to get him. Once he was responsible for the entire middle instead of just his side of the middle, he didn`t have the speed, one year and done.

Don't forget Chad Brown and he left when he was still a young player...He was still a good LB with the Seawhawks but he wasn't the badass like he was in our system....Its a shame Brown would have been a monster in our defense for years.....
KENDRELL BELL, prime example... dude was a MONSTER out of Georgia... his rookie season made him an instant all-star. Does anybody remember that interview w/ Ray Lewis, the reporter asked him, "So what do you thik of Steelers Rookie LB Bell!?!" Ray-lew in typical fashion stated, i dont even know who he is!?!?! He went on to be the DROTY, and we all know what happened after that!!!

Whoa.....do we not mention the success & what might have been with...Hardy Nickerson.....the front office is not infallible....

Black@Gold Forever32
03-18-2008, 12:50 AM
Kevin Greene, he was good before us and after us. He played 4 more years after the Steelers and had 52 sacks. :yellowthumb:

Greene was a badass DE with the Rams before he was a Steeler....The 3-4 was tailored to his strengths even though he switched to OLB in the 3-4...Plus when Greene left the Steelers, Greene signed with the Panthers and as you know former Steelers DC Dom Capers was their HC...Capers ran the same defense as the Steelers with Carolina....So Greene played in the same system really with the Panthers....

Only LBs really that left the Steelers and improved as a player is Hardy Nickerson who was mentioned in the post above and Mike Vrabel.....

The reason Nickerson was let go was due to the fact the Steelers had young LBs in LeVon Kirkland and Chad Brown ready to step in....