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Friday133
02-19-2008, 01:26 PM
Steelers sign Kirschke to a two-year deal
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers signed backup defensive end Travis Kirschke to a two-year contract, the team announced today.

Kirschke, who would have become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this month, will be starting his fifth season with the Steelers. He started four games in 2007 after a biceps injury ended Aaron Smith's season and played in all 16 games.

Kirscke, 33, spent his first six seasons with the Detroit Lions and and one year with the San Francisco 49ers before signing with the Steelers as an unrestricted free agent in March 2004.

Post-Gazette (http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08050/858643-66.stm)

I don't mine the signing to add depth to the line. But no way should he start again if someone gets injured.

yinzer
02-19-2008, 01:44 PM
i guess he'll do for now. we better be on the look out though.

BlackGold4vr
02-19-2008, 02:55 PM
I considered him to be expendable. Back-ups should be young fire-plugs learning the defense and just waiting for opportunity to come knockin. They shouldn't be old guys who have been career back-ups because they were never good enough to start. That's just my opinion. You mean to tell me that Ryan McBean or any DE that we might draft this year (Philip Merling) couldn't fill in just as nicely as Kirschke or better? I hope signing him is not an indicator that they aren't going to look for another DE through either free agency or the draft. :crossfingers:

DIESELMAN
02-19-2008, 03:09 PM
I was really hoping he would retire.

BlitzburghRockCity
02-19-2008, 03:16 PM
I considered him to be expendable. Back-ups should be young fire-plugs learning the defense and just waiting for opportunity to come knockin. They shouldn't be old guys who have been career back-ups because they were never good enough to start. That's just my opinion. You mean to tell me that Ryan McBean or any DE that we might draft this year (Philip Merling) couldn't fill in just as nicely as Kirschke or better? I hope signing him is not an indicator that they aren't going to look for another DE through either free agency or the draft. :crossfingers:

Well the way Im guessing their thought process is that Kirschke is a good backup and has been for awhile in spot duty spelling the starters in a regular rotation and for only 2 years they aren't investing a ton of money in him. This way they can draft a young stud DE and hopefully develop both the draft pick & McBean over the next year or 2 and see what they really have in both so they have some options and aren't stuck with nobody experienced should the draft pick get hurt or not work out :dunno: atleast I would hope that's their thinking and we still get a good DE in the draft that can really get ready to push Keisel and give us some quality play from the backup role at the least.

BlackGold4vr
02-19-2008, 03:24 PM
Well the way Im guessing their thought process is that Kirschke is a good backup

I would have to disagree with you on that last part. He is not a good back-up and when he had to play for significant minutes while Aaron Smith was out our run defense went to ****. The only value Kirschke has ever had IMO is as a ST wedgebuster (buddy lee). :lol:

BlitzburghRockCity
02-19-2008, 03:50 PM
well ok let's see he's at least a serviceable backup? Im just guessing they are worried about having no veteran depth behind the starters and if somebody does go down again they don't want to rely on an unproven McBean and a draft pick that may not be quite ready. I'd probably agree that if we get a quality DE, somebody on day 1 atleast that they would probably do as good a job as Travis can but I can see their point ( if Im thinking the same as they are) that they want to have some veteran help there while they groom a new DE. What I don't want to see is them going for some scrub in the 4th round who has no chance like all of our recent DL draft choices. We have 4 solid guys now (including Hoke) but beyond that the talent level drops off considerably and that has to change.

Stlrs4Life
02-19-2008, 04:33 PM
Kirshke isn't as bad as everybody thnks. He is a good back up. And like said. McBean isn't the answer yet.

steelcityrockers
02-19-2008, 05:13 PM
What? Kirschke gets blown 5 yards off the ball on every play. He sucks.

Ambridge
02-19-2008, 05:39 PM
Kirschke's better days are way behind him and he's getting long in the tooth.
I'd let him walk.

black an gold 4 life
02-19-2008, 05:53 PM
WOW WE MUST B DESPRATE, KIRSCHKE SUCKS AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, HE STUNK AS AN BACK UP AN WE SIGN HIM 4 2 MORE YEARS WTF? I KNOW WE LIKE 2 SIGN OUR OWN BUT HELL HE STINKS...................

DIESELMAN
02-19-2008, 07:10 PM
Look at the bright side, this will push Eason out the door, just be glad it wasn't him we resigned. I heard he signed for a 300,000 signing bonus for 2 years @ 2.28 mil. Not much of a cap hit if we do cut him later.

BlitzburghRockCity
02-19-2008, 08:10 PM
Look at the bright side, this will push Eason out the door, just be glad it wasn't him we resigned. I heard he signed for a 300,000 signing bonus for 2 years @ 2.328 mil. Not much of a cap hit if we do cut him later.

That's exactly right, his cap hit is next to nothing and they can always release him after the 2008 season if they find a draft pick or FA that can take over and really work themselves into the lineup but worse case scenario is we have a guy that can atleast play alittle bit. Remember the dude was taking over for Aaron Smith which is awfully big shoes to fill so of course there is going to be a drop off.

steelcityrockers
02-19-2008, 08:30 PM
Drop off is an understatement of epic porportions when describng Aaron Smith and Travis Kirschke.

K Train
02-19-2008, 08:39 PM
WOW WE MUST B DESPRATE, KIRSCHKE SUCKS AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, HE STUNK AS AN BACK UP AN WE SIGN HIM 4 2 MORE YEARS WTF? I KNOW WE LIKE 2 SIGN OUR OWN BUT HELL HE STINKS...................

wow hes cheap as hell, is a sevicable backup and knows the system...not to mention is one of the best on a very bad ST unit

BlitzburghRockCity
02-19-2008, 08:45 PM
Drop off is an understatement of epic porportions when describng Aaron Smith and Travis Kirschke.

There's nobody on the roster that wouldn't be a drop off replacing Smith, he is one of the best DE's in the league and as underrated as they come. Comparing Kirschke to Smith is like comparing a Hot Wheels to a real Truck. In a perfect world we would have 2 Smiths, 2 Hamptons, and 2 Keisel's...well ok 2 outta 3 ain't bad :lol: but the point is Kirschke has done pretty ok over the years and he can play ST which is a plus.

Steel58
02-20-2008, 08:27 AM
I hope this means we don't go after Justin Smith.

steelcityrockers
02-20-2008, 04:49 PM
There's nobody on the roster that wouldn't be a drop off replacing Smith, he is one of the best DE's in the league and as underrated as they come. Comparing Kirschke to Smith is like comparing a Hot Wheels to a real Truck. In a perfect world we would have 2 Smiths, 2 Hamptons, and 2 Keisel's...well ok 2 outta 3 ain't bad :lol: but the point is Kirschke has done pretty ok over the years and he can play ST which is a plus.

Well, no ****. However, it would be nice for a backup defensive end to at least be able to hold his own against......anything.

K Train
02-20-2008, 10:14 PM
I hope this means we don't go after Justin Smith.

yeah solidifying our dline would be a terrible idea

BlitzburghRockCity
02-21-2008, 11:31 AM
Well, no shiat. However, it would be nice for a backup defensive end to at least be able to hold his own against......anything.

Travis may not be an elite DE but he can atleast hold his own otherwise they wouldn't have brought him back. Im not saying he's the best backup in the NFL or even that he's great but at this point he's atleast adequate and he's there to help out while we hopefully groom a solid draft pick to step up and take over in a year.