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BlitzburghRockCity
02-01-2008, 03:03 PM
Who's your pick here.

I would love to trade up and get Pat Sims, the dude is monster from what I've been reading on him but a few mocks are projecting him higher in the 2nd round. If we can't swing him then I'd probably say Chilo Rachal at G.

BlackGold4vr
02-01-2008, 03:18 PM
I don't know if a DT or NT is where we are thinnest. Chris Hoke is Big Snack's back-up and he is a capable back-up. I would probably go with Branden Albert, OG (who some see as our first pick) I think this guy is easily still available at the 53rd pick or I would go with Philip Merling, DE from Clemson. We need good defensive ends more in my opinion than DT's. Aaron Smith's absence revealed our need at the position. When he went down our run defense fell apart. So I think an O-lineman or DE should get the 53rd pick consideration. Look at the best player available at those two positions and roll the dice. :2cents:

I also think that if you want to address DT you can wait another round or two. Frank Okam from Texas (Casey Hamptons alma matter) is being projected towards the bottom of the top 100 list. Okam is a horse just like Hampton and is more of a NT than a DT.

BlitzburghRockCity
02-01-2008, 03:42 PM
I read somewhere and for the life of me I can't find it now that they said Sims might be one who can be converted to and DE as well and with his size the dude would be a monster for us and be able to back up both positions. Hoke is a very capable backup to Hampton that's for sure so it's not a glaring immediate need unless they'd be able to make him more of an end but he sure is monster that I'd love to have. A more practical selection would be a Guard at this point since most of the DE's that are projecting the 2nd round from what I saw would be ones that are more on the smaller side and would be used for an OLB role.

BlackGold4vr
02-01-2008, 03:54 PM
I believe we are on the same page TOP. Great minds think alike! :hilarious:

K Train
02-01-2008, 05:08 PM
Bowman, Doucet or hawkins

BlackGold4vr
02-02-2008, 01:34 PM
By Mel Kiper Jr.
ESPN.com

As good as defensive end Gaines Adams was at Clemson in 2006, his former teammate Phillip Merling might be even better. Adams -- the fourth pick in last year's NFL draft -- was extremely flashy during his playing days at Clemson; however, you can make the argument that Merling is the more complete player. Merling is one of three new underclassmen debuting on this week's top 25 Big Board, along with USC guard Chilo Rachal and Oklahoma wide receiver Malcolm Kelly.

Philip Merling, DE, 6-5, 280lbs, Clemson: debuts on Mel Kipers big board at #11 overall. This is the guy I liked at our 2nd pick at #53 spot. I hope he doesn't climb that high on peoples boards or there will be no shot at picking him in the second round.


Notes: Merling is a tremendous run defender that makes plays in the backfield. He’s quick off the snap, plays with leverage, and alters the opposition’s offensive direction. He uses his hands effectively and has good range in pursuit. He has great balance, rarely gets knocked off his feet, and is fast off the edge. He’s a durable defender that has started every game in the last two seasons.

http://media.scout.com/media/image/32/326181.jpg

Ht: 6-5 Wt: 270 40: 4.80e
Position: DE
Date of Birth: 08/19/1985
Class: Junior
High School: Cordova HS
(Cordova, TN)
College: Clemson

2008 Scout.com NFL Draft Rankings (full list):
Pos: DE Pos Rank: #10 Pos Rating:

Scout.com Player Evaluation:
STRENGTHS
Backside Pursuit
Explosion
Intensity/Effort
AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT
Disengaging Skills
Strength

More physical vs the run then I expected. Liked his intensity and overall effort. Disruptive. Good range and versatility. Showed a tendency to play to high, but I loved his motor, quickness, toughness and the ability to finish. Good backside effort. Locates the ball on the inside. Needs better play strength and work disengaging from blocks. Could have some nickel inside pass rush potential. More complete then Gaines Adams. I am hoping that this guy might fall to us.

steelcityrockers
02-02-2008, 02:06 PM
Tevor Laws-DT/DE Notre Dame. I know he is a little short but he does not stop and is very versatile.

BlitzburghRockCity
02-02-2008, 02:08 PM
Philip Merling, DE, 6-5, 280lbs, Clemson: debuts on Mel Kipers big board at #11 overall. This is the guy I liked at our 2nd pick at #53 spot. I hope he doesn't climb that high on peoples boards or there will be no shot at picking him in the second round.

Then maybe we should hope he has a bad showing at the combine :lol:

BlackGold4vr
02-02-2008, 02:28 PM
Then maybe we should hope he has a bad showing at the combine :lol:


Funny thing is while Mel Kiper is ranking him as the 11th best player in the draft, scout.com had him ranked 63rd last week and this week he dropped off of their top 100 list. He is going in two different directions on different boards. Just goes to show how volatile these rankings are and how drastically they can change. Ones scouts stud is anothers dud and vice versa. :scratch:

MDSteel15
02-03-2008, 10:38 PM
Bowman, Doucet or hawkins

I have to go with you on this Train, but I don't think any of these guys will fall to us. I really like Doucet with him having the best hands in the WR corp.

steelcitysfinestXL
02-05-2008, 10:55 AM
Doucet is a gamer, he missed half the season last year but didnt have bad numbers on the year. I like this kid alot he reminds me of Santonio... but if we dont go OL in the 2nd, i like senior RB Chris Johnson out of ECU... im not good at projecting what round guys should go in, ESPN has him as the 5th ranked SR. rb. A top flight return man, greats hand out of the backfield and a tough runner. I like this pick cause if he isnt an instant spark on offense he would answer our Return problems. The guy had 1 fumble all season. with 40 times in the 4.3's and a tough running stlye this is the only skill pos. i like in the second!!!

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Question: Which offensive players who are draft eligible have been standouts during the bowl season?

Kiper: You have to start with East Carolina's senior running back Chris Johnson, who had 418 all-purpose yards against Boise State in the Hawaii Bowl. He had 233 rushing yards and one touchdown; 32 receiving yards and a touchdown; and 153 kickoff return yards. He should run the 40-yard dash somewhere in the 4.3 range. With his speed and versatility, Johnson could be the third running back taken after Arkansas' Darren McFadden and Felix Jones -- assuming both McFadden and Jones declare for the draft.

steelerfan11
02-05-2008, 09:53 PM
I say Laws or Doucet. I doubt Doucet will be around though.

If you want to go RB, what about Hart from Michigan. This kid is tough and is sort of a jones-drew. He is short and runs hard. I would be happy with Johnson also, I am just throwing out another name.

steelcityrockers
02-06-2008, 02:52 PM
Hart is not Jones-Drew. Bad comparison. MJD is quick, fast, a good Kick-Reurner, and runs hard. Hart runs hard. I am assuming that your basis for compairison is their size right?

steelerfan11
02-06-2008, 03:16 PM
yeah that was my original thought. That and that they both run hard. Sorry for not making a better comparison.

Zachintosh66
02-06-2008, 06:19 PM
1. Best Availible OL
2. CB, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tenn St.

BlackGold4vr
02-06-2008, 06:38 PM
1. Best Availible OL
2. CB, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tenn St.


Cromartie will not be there by our 53rd pick and I would bet you some SA $$ on that. After his stellar performance in the senior bowl his stock has been rising fast. If he can put in a decent performance at the combines he will ensure himself as a first round pick. Cover corners are one of the most sought after commodities in the NFL. They are right up there with franchise quarterbacks. At scout.com he is already listed as the 28th best player in the draft.

The OL pick is more likely to happen. :2cents:

MDSteel15
02-07-2008, 01:39 AM
I say Laws or Doucet. I doubt Doucet will be around though.

If you want to go RB, what about Hart from Michigan. This kid is tough and is sort of a jones-drew. He is short and runs hard. I would be happy with Johnson also, I am just throwing out another name.

I hope he's there in the 3rd or 4th and we snatch him. He would be a good compliment to Willie...

steelcitysfinestXL
02-07-2008, 02:31 PM
Sorry guys, my opinion on Mike Hart is that all he has is Heart!!! He runs tough and has a great leverage due to his lack of size.... but speed is LACKING for a dude that size!!! he put up some nice numbers at mich. but i wouldnt take him before the late 3rd or 4th!!!!

steelcityrockers
02-07-2008, 02:33 PM
I will agree with SCFXL. He is slow and has bad hands.

steelerfan11
02-07-2008, 05:16 PM
I didn't watch a lot of Michigan football so i don't know how well he catches the ball but according to espn.com he didn't fumble his entire career at Michigan. He also averaged 5 yards per carry while at Michigan.

K Train
02-07-2008, 05:49 PM
hes a tough runner no question.....might be a little small for the nfl, especiialy since he doesnt have much speed

V_83
02-12-2008, 01:32 PM
I didn't watch a lot of Michigan football so i don't know how well he catches the ball but according to espn.com he didn't fumble his entire career at Michigan. He also averaged 5 yards per carry while at Michigan.

From what i've read and heard about, he only had three fumbles his career. Two of them coming in his last game against Florida, in the Capital One Bowl.