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BlitzburghRockCity
01-28-2008, 01:25 AM
http://news.steelers.com/article/86981/

Roethlisberger voted Steelers Ed Block Courage Award recipient

Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is the Steelers 2007 Ed Block Courage Award recipient, an award voted on by his teammates.

“It is an honor that your teammates vote for it and it means a lot coming from them,” said Roethlisberger. “I am happy to be the recipient of the award as the come back guy. Hopefully I can be a role model for the kids as that has always been a goal of mine.”

The award is presented annually to a Steelers player who has fought back from an injury or tough situation to return to the field. Last season Roethlisberger was in a motorcycle accident in June that left him hospitalized and many fearing his football future. He remarkably came back from that unscathed, only to have to an emergency appendectomy before the start of the season.

“I guess the other side of it is it looks like I am the one that came back from the worst injury with the accident and everything,” said Roethlisberger. “But it means my teammates respect the hard work you put in to try to get back and also for the things you do in the community.”

One player from every NFL team is selected as a winner and are honored at a national luncheon in Baltimore.

Now maybe we can stop all this talk about Ben not being respected or liked by his teammates because he didn't get the team MVP vote. They know he's tough, talented, determined, and a Steeler all the way. Congrats to Ben on getting this award! :cope:

Iron City South
01-28-2008, 06:52 AM
Let's not try to buy Ben respect by using this award to do it. This is essentially the Leg Lamp "major award" that the dad in the movie The Christmas Story recieved .... you remember, the one marked with the French words 'frag-il-ee' on the box.

This award is presented to a player who has fought back from an injury or tough situation to return to the field (basically there was nobody else to give it too!) .... Bottom line, it has nothing to do with his leadership skills on the team (which is why he wasn't voted for team MVP) and everything to do with his resilience to return from injury. :yesnod:

steelersgal86
01-28-2008, 07:17 AM
Congrats to Ben :yellowthumb: :clap::clap:

BlitzburghRockCity
01-28-2008, 09:11 AM
Let's not try to buy Ben respect by using this award to do it. This is essentially the Leg Lamp "major award" that the dad in the movie The Christmas Story recieved .... you remember, the one marked with the French words 'frag-il-ee' on the box.

This award is presented to a player who has fought back from an injury or tough situation to return to the field (basically there was nobody else to give it too!) .... Bottom line, it has nothing to do with his leadership skills on the team (which is why he wasn't voted for team MVP) and everything to do with his resilience to return from injury. :yesnod:

Why do you read so much into a freeking MVP award that Steelers QB's never get anyways. The last time we talked about this I posted up the list of all the Steelers team MVP's and there were only a couple that ever got it, even the great Bradshaw only ever got it twice and you could argue he should have gotten every year so I guess that means the dynasty era teams never respected Terry either! There's no point beating this topic to death again, anybody who thinks this team doesn't respect Ben, doesn't think he's the leader on the field, and doesn't think that he is the major reason we got back to the playoffs this year seriously needs to rethink that thought process. Steelers teams just do NOT vote QB's as their MVP's..that's how it is and how it's been for the last 4 decades. Nobody is saying Ben doesn't deserve it, he does...so does Willie, Hines, James and a couple others you could make a case for.

TEEMONT
01-28-2008, 10:41 AM
Dammit I hate to do this, really, but I agree with ICS.

Winning this award is like winning the Maxwell award in college football. Last year Brady Quinn won it, but then Troy Smith wins the Heisman, so who was really the best QB.

I'm not saying his teammates don't respect him, but they should have voted him MVP, it doesn't matter what the Steelers usually do. I guess this is a nice award and all, but you know deep down, Ben knows he deserved MVP, and e probably harbors a little hate since his team spurned him on an award that should have been his. I mean for chrissake, the dude was easily the second most valuable player in the league.

AZ_Steeler
01-28-2008, 12:10 PM
Dammit I hate to do this, really, but I agree with ICS.

:scratch: WOW! That is something I thought I would never see! :lol:

Bottom line is I think he there was anything between the players and Ben they would have somebody else they would have given it too. I don't think this is a win by default so congrats to Ben!

PsychoWard
01-28-2008, 12:30 PM
congrats to ben!

Iron City South
01-28-2008, 01:18 PM
:scratch: WOW! That is something I thought I would never see! :lol:


Tee and I would probably be best friends if we were neighbors. :beer4:

I just like busting his balls becasue he has such a short fuse and I can almost guess how he's going to respond. :stirpot:

BlitzburghRockCity
01-28-2008, 01:42 PM
Dammit I hate to do this, really, but I agree with ICS.

Winning this award is like winning the Maxwell award in college football. Last year Brady Quinn won it, but then Troy Smith wins the Heisman, so who was really the best QB.

I'm not saying his teammates don't respect him, but they should have voted him MVP, it doesn't matter what the Steelers usually do. I guess this is a nice award and all, but you know deep down, Ben knows he deserved MVP, and e probably harbors a little hate since his team spurned him on an award that should have been his. I mean for chrissake, the dude was easily the second most valuable player in the league.

The Steelers are a team entrenched in history and tradition. They do things a certain way and it's rare that they deviate from that. Players that have been on the team for any length of time understand this and they buy into it as well. Regardless of how great Ben is, and yes he is the best Steelers QB since Bradshaw and when it's all said and done he may be mentioned in the same breath as that HOF QB but the fact is the team knows Ben is the leader, they know they will go as far as he can take them and they know he is capable of moving the chains, throwing TD's and winning games each and every week. It just comes down to that fact that once again the Steelers just don't vote QB's the MVP that often and right or wrong that's how it is, period. Ben will get team MVP's during his career with us there is no doubt but to actually think the team doesn't respect or believe in him because of him not getting it for 2007 is absurd IMO.

Ben may harbor a bit of resentment but it's not something that would deter him from sticking around Pittsburgh and signing a new deal. He'll get over, Hines will get over Ben's comments about the tall WR and everybody will move on.

TEEMONT
01-28-2008, 01:54 PM
Tee and I would probably be best friends if we were neighbors. :beer4:

I just like busting his balls becasue he has such a short fuse and I can almost guess how he's going to respond. :stirpot:

My balls are sensitive, they don't need busted.

Besides, it sucks that I'm always right, and unless you happen to agree with me, you're wrong.

NOVA STEELERS
01-29-2008, 06:52 AM
Congrats to Big Ben :clap: :bigthumb:

floodcitygirl
01-29-2008, 10:02 AM
His team mates wouldn't have voted for him if they didn't respect him, his effort and his play. Congrats Ben! Very well deserved.

TampaSteelGirl
01-29-2008, 07:36 PM
CONGRATS BEN!!!!!! :tt02:

Black@Gold Forever32
01-29-2008, 07:41 PM
Ben still got screwed by not winning the Steelers MVP and the fact he won this award does nothing to change my mind......Its evident by Hines acting like 5 year old about Ben wanting a tall WR that some on this team don't care for Ben to much.....You can bring up the history of Steelers MVP but really it doesn't hold water since over the years there hasn't been many stellar QBs in Steelers history...lol

BlitzburghRockCity
01-29-2008, 07:48 PM
Ben still got screwed by not winning the Steelers MVP and the fact he won this award does nothing to change my mind......Its evident by Hines acting like 5 year old about Ben wanting a tall WR that some on this team don't care for Ben to much.....You can bring up the history of Steelers MVP but really it doesn't hold water since over the years there hasn't been many stellar QBs in Steelers history...lol

Of course it holds water, it holds a damn swimming pool in relation to this instance. Ben is the starting QB, a franchise QB. Terry was too. Terry was with the STeelers his entire career and won 4 superbowls and could have have 6 if things turned out differently. Terry only got it 2 times in his whole career and regardless of the Steel curtain or not this team wasn't winning those super bowls without Terry at the controls. History repeats itself and in this case it's the same now as then. The team knows Ben is the ****, they know he's the face of this team and the guy to lead them. Perhaps they just feel since that is the obvious case they would give it to someone else...same as they have since the 70's.

Did Ben get screwed or not? maybe so depending on how you look at it but it's water under the bridge now; this team hasn't had a franchise QB since Terry retired..that's all through the 80's, 90's and into 2K..now they've got one and the team knows he's the man. :yellowthumb:

Black@Gold Forever32
01-29-2008, 08:06 PM
Of course it holds water, it holds a damn swimming pool in relation to this instance. Ben is the starting QB, a franchise QB. Terry was too. Terry was with the STeelers his entire career and won 4 superbowls and could have have 6 if things turned out differently. Terry only got it 2 times in his whole career and regardless of the Steel curtain or not this team wasn't winning those super bowls without Terry at the controls. History repeats itself and in this case it's the same now as then. The team knows Ben is the shiat, they know he's the face of this team and the guy to lead them. Perhaps they just feel since that is the obvious case they would give it to someone else...same as they have since the 70's.

Did Ben get screwed or not? maybe so depending on how you look at it but it's water under the bridge now; this team hasn't had a franchise QB since Terry retired..that's all through the 80's, 90's and into 2K..now they've got one and the team knows he's the man. :yellowthumb:

Ok but Terry sucked his first five years in the NFL...lol So it took him awhile to be respected....By the time the Steelers won their last two Super Bowls in the 70s.....Terry reached greatness and thats why he probably won those two MVP awards....Sorry but I don't buy since the Steelers are all about power running game and defense is why QBs don't win the team MVP.....Since the start of handing out the team MVP which dates back to the late 60s I think....The only two QBs worth a damn are Terry and Ben....If the Steelers had a better QB history more QBs would have won the award...

As for 2007 it clearly was Ben and the fact it was James Harrison was just flat out joke...Harrison had a solid year overall...But his great game against the Ravens made his season look better then it really was....

I'm sorry only one QB has thrown for 30 TD passes in a season and thats Big Ben....He broke his own single season QB rating record...He also tied the Steelers single game record for TD passes......Became the 3rd QB in franchise history to throw for 3000 yards in a season twice.....The other two are Terry and Kordell...lol Which there has only been 8 seasons in which a Steelers QB has thrown for 3000 yards....

Ben not winning the team MVP was a slap in the face and I'm convinced many of his team mates don't care for him much.....Bettis and Ben were friends and close...But Bettis retired in 2005....I'm sure most of the guys currently on this offense have a man crush on Ward...Until he is gone I don't see Ben winning the team MVP.....

Only reason this team made the play-offs was Big Ben....Thats most valuable player......This team makes the play-offs without James Harrison.....

BlitzburghRockCity
01-29-2008, 08:14 PM
Ok so Terry sucked his first 5 years in the league, then why didn't he get the MVP for the team more than twice. There is no way in hell the dynasty team of the 70's turns out to be that dynasty without Terry so you can make a case for him getting it year in and year out during those 6 years. He doesn't harbor any resentment towards his teammates for not getting more than 2 team MVP's Im sure so why should Ben? Terry understands what playing in Pittsburgh is about and it's not the QB. It's always about the running game and defense. That's how it is, was, and will be for the immediate future. Things may very well change but for right now there is no way Ben should mad about this any longer if he understands the way the team is and works.

Of course Ben had a great season, one of the best ever no doubt. We wouldn't be where we are today without him and Im sure as hell glad he's on our side but the fact is he may or may not get the team MVP multiple times in his career but Im pretty sure the team still respects him. Even if all of them don't like him (and not everybody likes everybody it's just human nature) they respect him and what he does on the field. If anything he should have been bitching about getting some blocking not a tall WR..LOL.

We all may want to think that this isn't the same Steeler team as the 70's, and it's not right now it's evolving into a new era but it's not there yet. This team still buys into tough defense, run the ball and have the QB manage the game. Ben may very well revolutionize the QB position in Pittsburgh but changing the way a franchise thinks and acts from the way it has been for the last several decades it's going to take more than 4 years. We have a new offense and new way of thinking in Pittsburgh when it comes to running that offense but roots of the city and the hard nosed way of thinking don't change easily.

Ben deserved the MVP, of course he did and you could make a case for QB getting it every year because you aren't making the playoffs without a good QB so then what you think Ben should get it every year he's on the team? Of course not, he'll get his but other years other players deserve it too and James overcame a lot and is a worthy candidate.

Black@Gold Forever32
01-29-2008, 08:23 PM
Why didn't Terry win more team MVP awards?.....I answered that already he sucked his first five years....lol Top if he would have been great from the start then Terry would have won more team MVP awards...lol

When did I say the QB should win it every year? All I said if the Steelers had better QBs in their history then more QBs would have won the team MVP.....

As for this year....What I meant Ben was clearly the reason this team made the play-offs this year......So I don't think QBs should win the MVP every year when the Steelers make the play-offs....I just think this year this current QB deserved it...

I also don't think James Harrison was worthy...Take away his game against the Ravens and he had a very average to good season.....I like James Harrison and I think he is a good player....But there has been better OLBs in this 3-4....Now if James would have posted 10-12 sacks then I could seen him in the conversation....

BlitzburghRockCity
01-29-2008, 08:29 PM
What I meant by Terry winning it every year was not referring to his first 5 years it was referring to the stretch of 6 years when we won 4 and could have won all 6 and even after that when he was still good...mainly my point is that when you are winning you can make a case for a QB getting it every year because you do nothing as a team in the postseason without some type of decent QB play. Other players deserve the honor too even if they aren't has high profiled or get as big of stats as the QB.

Trust me I agree Ben was awesome in 2007, hell I've had a man crush on him since we drafted him :lol: but I just know the way this team is they don't usually give the team MVP to QB's. I hope they do change that way of thinking to some degree and they probably will but it won't happen over night. Give Ben time, he'll get his MVP's for sure.

James got it mainly because of how long he's been around and how much he's gone through at this point with getting cut and being hurt so often so they just wanted to reward him for that and it's well deserved. Is he deserving over Ben or Willie? maybe not, maybe so but either way this team does nothing in the future without Ben and I would hope the players understand that by now :)

Black@Gold Forever32
01-29-2008, 08:37 PM
What I meant by Terry winning it every year was not referring to his first 5 years it was referring to the stretch of 6 years when we won 4 and could have won all 6 and even after that when he was still good...mainly my point is that when you are winning you can make a case for a QB getting it every year because you do nothing as a team in the postseason without some type of decent QB play. Other players deserve the honor too even if they aren't has high profiled or get as big of stats as the QB.

Trust me I agree Ben was awesome in 2007, hell I've had a man crush on him since we drafted him :lol: but I just know the way this team is they don't usually give the team MVP to QB's. I hope they do change that way of thinking to some degree and they probably will but it won't happen over night. Give Ben time, he'll get his MVP's for sure.

James got it mainly because of how long he's been around and how much he's gone through at this point with getting cut and being hurt so often so they just wanted to reward him for that and it's well deserved. Is he deserving over Ben or Willie? maybe not, maybe so but either way this team does nothing in the future without Ben and I would hope the players understand that by now :)

Whats funny is I'm sure fans like me are more upset then Ben is in him not winning team MVP...lol I'm sure Ben is getting on with his life just fine while I keep on fighting for this injustice that occurred...lol

Well James Harrison's story is nice....But his fellow defensive mates could have bought him a nice watch or something....Just give that damn team MVP award to Ben...lol

BlitzburghRockCity
01-29-2008, 08:46 PM
We as fans always blow **** way out of proportion but that's our right as fans; to over analyze things and make it a bigger issue than it usually is :lol: That's thanks in part to the media who is the only outlet we have to the team except when you see a player or coach interview live otherwise we only get what the media wants us to get.

It's what being a true fan is all about because everybody knows if the fans ran the team we would always win :D

Black@Gold Forever32
01-29-2008, 09:13 PM
We as fans always blow shiat way out of proportion but that's our right as fans; to over analyze things and make it a bigger issue than it usually is :lol: That's thanks in part to the media who is the only outlet we have to the team except when you see a player or coach interview live otherwise we only get what the media wants us to get.

It's what being a true fan is all about because everybody knows if the fans ran the team we would always win :D

Well I'm sure us fans would have drafted better on the 2nd day of the draft the last 5 years then Cowher/Colbert...lol Those two totally sucking on their 2nd day draft picks have left us in the mess were in currently with our OL and DL...lol