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BlitzburghRockCity
11-07-2007, 06:30 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07311/831683-66.stm?cmpid=HBEHTML


Ben Roethlisberger threw five touchdown passes in the first half against the Ravens.The old guy who came down from the TV booth Monday night drew the loudest ovation when the all-time team of the Steelers 75th Season was introduced at Heinz Field.

The reaction from the crowd might have been louder had there been two quarterbacks selected to the all-time team instead of one. Ben Roethlisberger would have given Terry Bradshaw a run for his money.

In fact, he is. Roethlisberger's record-tying five touchdown passes Monday, all in the first half, lifted his total to a career-high 20 halfway through the season. That puts him on pace to shatter Bradshaw's Steelers record of 28 set during their third Super Bowl season of 1978.

Roethlisberger, who has a bruised hip that won't keep him out of the game Sunday against Cleveland, has the second-best passer rating in the NFL at 111.9, behind Tom Brady's 131.8. His 20 touchdown passes are second to Brady's 33.

A generation after Bradshaw's retirement, the Steelers finally have a worthy successor at quarterback.

A few years from now, that all-time team could look outdated because Roethlisberger was not on it. Monday, he leaped over three more former Steelers quarterbacks to become the second-most prolific touchdown thrower in their history with 72. It's a far cry from Bradshaw's record 212 over 14 seasons but Roethlisberger, at 25, is just warming up.

He certainly is off to a faster start than the popular Bradshaw, a Hall of Famer and two-time Super Bowl MVP with four rings. Bradshaw, like Roethlisberger a starter as a rookie, threw 41 touchdown passes in his first four seasons and had 73 interceptions.

Bradshaw played on a rebuilding team his first few years, and the style of play was much different than it is today. Still, Roethlisberger's stats from his 3 1/2 seasons are impressive stacked next to the man known as the Blonde Bomber. Roethlisberger has thrown 72 touchdown passes and 49 interceptions.

He is on pace for 40 touchdowns this season, something previously considered beyond reach playing on a team that traditionally prefers to run. Peyton Manning holds the NFL record with 49, although Brady seems destined to erase that. Coach Mike Tomlin said he is not surprised by Roethlisberger's pace.

"He has all the physical talent," Tomlin said yesterday. "He's big. He's strong. He's mobile. He can make any throw on the field. He's a smart guy.

"He looks like the 11th pick in the draft. Those guys have all the physical skills. Then the question is: Do they have the intangibles? That's what I was interested in and that's what I've been impressed with thus far from him."

Tomlin likes to say he was not here last year, so he did not know what occurred, but Roethlisberger has taken more of a leadership role in the offense. Coordinator Bruce Arians told his quarterback in the spring it was Roethlisberger's offense and invited him to help rework the playbook and involved him more in the game plan.

"I've only been here one year," Tomlin said. "Those leadership kinds of things don't really show themselves during the offseason. Live bullets have to be flying for those things to be showing themselves. I sensed those characteristics in him back in the spring, but he's confirming them now."

Tomlin was taken to task by some when he put Roethlisberger back into the game in the fourth quarter after he missed 1 1/2 series with a hip injury that occurred when Baltimore linebacker Terrell Suggs shoved him out of bounds after he completed a pass.

Why risk it with the Steelers ahead 35-7? Tomlin said Monday night that Roethlisberger was persuasive, and Roethlisberger said he wanted to return because his "guys," particularly the offensive linemen, were still on the field.

Roethlisberger might have had a sixth touchdown pass because Santonio Holmes streaked wide open on a post as the quarterback was sacked. Tomlin took him out in favor of Charlie Batch after that series.

Yesterday, the coach said he had no second thoughts about putting him back into the game.

"He got complete medical clearance from our medical staff," Tomlin said. "He had a desire to do it. He's a competitor. This is a competitive game played by competitive men, coached by competitive men. Guys walk on the field; they desire to walk off the field. I wanted to give him that."

Roethlisberger again excelled in another area Monday night -- on third down. Three of his first four touchdown passes came on third down. He ranks second in the NFL with a 117.6 passer rating on third downs, and his 10.23-yard average on third-down attempts tops every quarterback in the league.

"As the kitchen gets hot, the chefs display themselves," is how Tomlin explained it.

And Roethlisberger is cooking up some kind of season, perhaps the best of any Steelers quarterback.

We waited for 2 decades to have a franchise QB after Bradshaw. After suffering for so many years with names like Brister, Woodley, Stoudt, Malone, Stewart, Graham, etc. it's so refreshing to have a solid guy at the helm for us that has the proven ability to lead us into and through the post season. Ben is the perfect fit for our team and if he continues on the pace he's at now he could very well be mentioned in the same breath as Bradshaw when it's all said and done.

NOVA STEELERS
11-07-2007, 07:31 AM
It is definately been well worth the wait, as long as we lock him up to be a STEELER for life I will be :clap: :cope:

Greygrizzly
11-07-2007, 11:08 AM
Don't get me wrong here Big Ben is a Franchise QB. But it shouldn't have taken 20 years to get one after Bradshaw retired. In my opino the organization really didn't even give a good try at getting a franchise QB in the intrum.

AZ_Steeler
11-07-2007, 11:28 AM
Keeping things conservative and saying Ben finished the year with 35, that would put him at 87 for the year. That means, based off his first 4 years he would need another 6 years to break Bradshaws record. Of course that is averaging almost 22 TD's per year..

BBG7
11-07-2007, 01:44 PM
Ben has had an impressive season so far, but I have always believed in him and his abilities. Last year was a fluke and he was going through a lot. This is a different year, and I like what I'm seeing. Keep up the great work Ben!!!

K Train
11-07-2007, 03:08 PM
Don't get me wrong here Big Ben is a Franchise QB. But it shouldn't have taken 20 years to get one after Bradshaw retired. In my opino the organization really didn't even give a good try at getting a franchise QB in the intrum.

because knowing whos gonna be great is such an easy task right?

$teeler$guy
11-07-2007, 03:40 PM
big ben is having a great season so far can't wait to see how he finishes off the season

BlitzburghRockCity
11-07-2007, 09:52 PM
Ben has had an impressive season so far, but I have always believed in him and his abilities. Last year was a fluke and he was going through a lot. This is a different year, and I like what I'm seeing. Keep up the great work Ben!!!

Next year will be the tell tale sign for Ben because that's when the team will probably look to get him an extension. I've heard talk that they may be starting this offseason to try and ink a long term extension with him so you never know. He needs to continue to grow and be a consistent leader for us; I have all the faith in the world in him.

SteelerSteve
11-07-2007, 11:47 PM
Ben is a great qb, and a franchise qb. He is our future, and I am very happy about that. He needs to make sure that he finishes the season in one piece, and with the good strong effort he has put forth thus far. Him getting hurt would be my biggest concern, but he has been fairly reliable in that department and I expect the Rooneys to get a deal done soon this offseason. GO BEN!!!! MY FAVORITE PLAYER :tt02::tt02::tt02::tt02:

DBR96A
11-08-2007, 03:37 AM
Not bad for "the most overrated QB in the NFL," you know? *lmao*

**** everybody who said that 2006 was "the real Ben." **** 'em up the ***.

SteelerSteve
11-08-2007, 12:44 PM
Not bad for "the most overrated QB in the NFL," you know? *lmao*

**** everybody who said that 2006 was "the real Ben." **** 'em up the ***.:lol: Thats a little blunt, but I know what your saying. F*** those haters. I always hated that, especially from Bengal fans:cursin: IMO hes one of the more underrated QB's.

$teeler$guy
11-08-2007, 12:56 PM
:lol: Thats a little blunt, but I know what your saying. F*** those haters. I always hated that, especially from Bengal fans:cursin: IMO hes one of the more underrated QB's.



totally agreed i feel the same way.:tt02::tt02:

DBR96A
11-08-2007, 08:53 PM
He is THE most underrated QB in the NFL.

K Train
11-08-2007, 09:01 PM
hes hated, not really underrated though....plus hes gonna be getting some attention being 2nd in the NFL in TD passes now

GoBenGo
11-08-2007, 09:31 PM
hes hated, not really underrated though....plus hes gonna be getting some attention being 2nd in the NFL in TD passes now

He came in underrated, made history, that's when the hatin' starts. I was hoping we would draft him in the first place. Never a doubt. This guy is money. He is going to be in the Hall of Fame. Mr Franchise. Mom 'n Pop apple pie and all that. Let the assbags Hate-on, makes the victory sweeter.

Y'all wanna come in now, all the non-believers.Y'all wanna come in now?
Long past the Mannings, long past Brady, they will speak of Roethlisberger.And they will be in awe.:markit:

K Train
11-08-2007, 09:58 PM
He came in underrated, made history, that's when the hatin' starts. I was hoping we would draft him in the first place. Never a doubt. This guy is money. He is going to be in the Hall of Fame. Mr Franchise. Mom 'n Pop apple pie and all that. Let the assbags Hate-on, makes the victory sweeter.

Long past the Mannings, long past Brady, they will speak of Roethlisberger.And they will be in awe.:markit:

damn dude take it easy, he didnt come in underrated, he came in as an unproven rookie and won a bunch of games with a great team around him.

hes good, but slow down....everyone hates him cause of the early success he had without doing much, and by him not doing all that much he was labled overrated. now hes just starting to see the game like a NFL qb should....

BlitzburghRockCity
11-08-2007, 10:04 PM
Ya gotta love his enthusiasm..LOL

and now that he's seeing the game and really starting to learn what his potential really is he's got the whole world at his fingertips. We have just begun to scratch the surface with what Ben can do !

BBG7
11-08-2007, 10:08 PM
I have loved watching Ben grow as a QB in the NFL (take away last year). This year I really think he has grown tremendously. He has more imput in the offense and I think that is part of the reason he is having such success this year. He feels more comfortable in this offense and I think it's helping him a lot!

BlitzburghNation
11-09-2007, 12:21 AM
damn dude take it easy, he didnt come in underrated, he came in as an unproven rookie and won a bunch of games with a great team around him.

hes good, but slow down....everyone hates him cause of the early success he had without doing much, and by him not doing all that much he was labled overrated. now hes just starting to see the game like a NFL qb should....

Well said K-Man,,,,,,,,,,, :clap:

SteelerSteve
11-09-2007, 02:59 PM
hes hated, not really underrated though....plus hes gonna be getting some attention being 2nd in the NFL in TD passes nowWait a minute. You think he hasn't been underrated? After what happened last year everybody started saying how that Ben showed his true colors and all he is good for is managing a game. Everyone called him way overrated, which in my opinion is why he is underrated if that makes any sense. I also think he is hated by alot of other fans too though.

TEEMONT
11-09-2007, 09:24 PM
He came in underrated, made history, that's when the hatin' starts. I was hoping we would draft him in the first place. Never a doubt. This guy is money. He is going to be in the Hall of Fame. Mr Franchise. Mom 'n Pop apple pie and all that. Let the assbags Hate-on, makes the victory sweeter.

Long past the Mannings, long past Brady, they will speak of Roethlisberger.And they will be in awe.:markit:


And thats why I don tlike Ben, b/c there are soo omany people swinging from his nuts that think he is the greatest ever. Ben i sproving me wrong so far this year, but he still isn't a top 5 QB, and he won't be until he gets an Oline.

K Train
11-09-2007, 09:44 PM
yeah he is, hes good enough to break the top 5. I think to be as successful WITH the oline that we have makes him even better, the hall of fame talk, best thats ever lived talk makes me kinda sick, because thats not the case but its become obvious that he HAS gotten better and can handle the load like we would expect him to. His style of play might be a little unorthodox but all the guy has done since hes started playing was win games and this year it has been more reliable on him than his supporting cast, which it definitely was the first 2 years.

Name 5 you would rather have.

Peyton, Brady and who? Brees? maybe, Carson? behind our oline...that would be awesome, hes a fumble machine as it is. Ben has all the talent and HAS been working hard this year, even though you think hes incapable of that.

$teeler$guy
11-10-2007, 06:53 AM
big ben is way underrated drew bress is overrated

K Train
11-10-2007, 10:55 AM
actually they are both rated just fine

SteelerSteve
11-10-2007, 08:31 PM
yeah he is, hes good enough to break the top 5. I think to be as successful WITH the oline that we have makes him even better, the hall of fame talk, best thats ever lived talk makes me kinda sick, because thats not the case but its become obvious that he HAS gotten better and can handle the load like we would expect him to. His style of play might be a little unorthodox but all the guy has done since hes started playing was win games and this year it has been more reliable on him than his supporting cast, which it definitely was the first 2 years.

Name 5 you would rather have.

Peyton, Brady and who? Brees? maybe, Carson? behind our oline...that would be awesome, hes a fumble machine as it is. Ben has all the talent and HAS been working hard this year, even though you think hes incapable of that.Yeah, with our system there isn't many qb's I would rather have. Brees? HELL NO, hes short, and doesn't have much arm, Brady? Nope, he is SLOOOOOOW. Manning? maybe, but Ben is younger, and a more exciting player to watch with alot of potential. Carson Palmer is a good passer, but thats about it. Seriously I think he is a top five, possibly top three and no, I am not being a homer about this. The dude is that talented.

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And thats why I don tlike Ben, b/c there are soo omany people swinging from his nuts that think he is the greatest ever. Ben i sproving me wrong so far this year, but he still isn't a top 5 QB, and he won't be until he gets an Oline.I dont think he is the greatest ever....yet at least, we still have to see how his career plays out, but I dont think there is anything wrong with people being excited about him because he really is an elite qb. He has proven it, he could easily finish out this year with 40+ TD passes and he could end up getting close to 4,000 yards. Those are nice numbers and everything, but personally the numbers arent what matters. What matters is the intagible talent to be a winner, and Ben has that.

$teeler$guy
11-10-2007, 09:40 PM
actually they are both rated just fine

thats ur opinion.:bigthumb: